Brooks Ghost Max 4 vs On Cloudsurfer Max
Two shoes compared on measured geometry. Each cell carries a provenance badge; open a shoe for sources.
- Brooks Ghost Max 439/33 mm · toe rocker 38 % · heel bevel 10 %
- On Cloudsurfer Max37/31 mm · toe rocker 37 % · heel bevel 7 %
Which suits you
| If you want | Pick | Because |
|---|---|---|
| A smoother roll at toe-off | About the same | 37.7 vs 37.1 % toe rocker |
| More cushioning under the heel | Brooks Ghost Max 4 | 39 vs 37 mm heel stack |
| More under the forefoot | Brooks Ghost Max 4 | 33 vs 31 mm forefoot stack |
| A lower drop | About the same | 6 vs 6 mm drop |
| A stiffer, snappier forefoot | Brooks Ghost Max 4 | 64 vs 54 /100 stiffness |
| A firmer, more stable feel | On Cloudsurfer Max | 74 vs 90 /100 firmness |
| A wider base under the forefoot | About the same | 117.6 vs 115.5 mm forefoot base |
From the values below, with differences inside measurement noise shown as about the same. This describes the shoes, not what is right for your feet; comfort in the first few runs decides.
| Metric | Brooks Ghost Max 4 Max cushion · Road | On Cloudsurfer Max Max cushion · Road |
|---|---|---|
| Heel-to-toe drop | 6 mmStated | 6 mmStated |
| Heel stack | 39 mmStated | 37 mmStated |
| Forefoot stack | 33 mmStated | 31 mmStated |
| Weight | 289 gStated | 292 gStated |
| Toe rocker | 38 %est. | 37 %est. |
| Rocker radius | 53 %est. | 45 %est. |
| Rocker rise angle | 26 degest. | 28 degest. |
| Rocker angle at toe | 58 degest. | 58 degest. |
| Toe tip over ground | 43 mm*est. | 45 mm*est. |
| Visible rocker lift onset | 72.9 %est. | 74.7 %est. |
| Toe spring (relative) | 19.6 %est. | 20 %est. |
| Heel bevel length | 9.6 %est. | 7.1 %est. |
| Heel bevel height | 19 mm*est. | — |
| Midsole width (forefoot) | 117.6 mmMeasured | 115.5 mmMeasured |
| Midsole width (heel) | 96.2 mmMeasured | 95 mmMeasured |
| Interior forefoot width | 93.4 mmMeasured | 96.1 mmMeasured |
| Toebox width | 71.3 mmMeasured | 71.4 mmMeasured |
| Longitudinal stiffness | 64Derived | 54Derived |
| Midsole firmness | 74Derived | 90Derived |
| Plate | No plate | No plate |
| Primary foam | DNA Loft v3 | Helion (EVA-based) with CloudTec Phase |
| List price | $165 | $180 |
Key differences
- Heel-to-toe drop is about the same: 6 mm for Brooks Ghost Max 4, 6 mm for On Cloudsurfer Max.
- Brooks Ghost Max 4's heel stack is 39 mm, 2 mm thicker than On Cloudsurfer Max's 37 mm.
- Brooks Ghost Max 4's forefoot stack is 33 mm, 2 mm thicker than On Cloudsurfer Max's 31 mm.
- Weight is about the same: 289 g for Brooks Ghost Max 4, 292 g for On Cloudsurfer Max.
- Toe rocker is about the same: 38 % of length for Brooks Ghost Max 4, 37 % of length for On Cloudsurfer Max.
Read more about both shoes
We measure the shape. For how they feel over many miles, and for lab tests of cushioning, grip and fit:
Brooks Ghost Max 4
- Believe in the Run · tester review
- RTINGS · lab test
- RunRepeat · lab test
On Cloudsurfer Max
- Believe in the Run · tester review
- RTINGS · lab test
- RunRepeat · lab test
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